Racism and Socialism

OK, first off. People like Scorpio, Pilburn, DOC, and Burn are entirely the reason why I gave up journalism. It's because they want to spread their idiotic ideals down our throats as if we were sheep. First off, this is SCARTS, we're here to race, if you want to run your mouth about how Europeans are all communists or that Sarah Palin would be a better president than Obama, then go somewhere else where your damn ideals are acceptable and just let the rest of us freakin' race, damn it!

Honestly, I could care less about the government, because they're all out for themselves. That and I have given up on it all after punching a Tea Party protester when Obama came to Iowa a while back. So seriously, grow up. I've had enough of politics and if you're going to be an idiot about it, then get out of SCARTS.

On another note, start learning how to keep formation during restarts, too!

First off, I did not participate in your politics rant (Neither did Slick or TomCat, it was youself, Lexx, and Scorpio). You're just mentioning me because of the pits incident. Next off, you sure as hell didn't punch a Tea Party protester (violation of the First Amendment).

Not once did you mention your excessive blocking, hmm what a coincidence? I hope to see you banned once again.

This is funny as hell to me, Socialism is where i work, government takes my money, gives it to BOB who hasnt done **** all of his life and gets rewarded. everyone gets Health Care (which does not work because it wastes an acumulated 1.8 trillion a year, which stacks deficit and kills our econ, much like eroupe) Uh, Obama is a crappy president in my mind, he is gunning for cap and trade which makes it so he controls another aspect of buisiness along with healthcare he gains more power over you and me. Cap and Trade says you cannot put so much carbon in the air and taxes you on it AND if you go over it they HEAP more taxes on you and then the Trade part is if you dont go over it you can sell the amount you didnt use to the government (which taxes you to sell it) that is complete and utter socialism which will never work under truth and facts, jimime carter tried it and the unemployment was at 25% pipelines around the block 4 trillian in the hole with debt. NOW after that Reagan got us out and put us only into 4 billion dollar debt BUT un employment was at only 4% the best it has been since before the great depression WHICH was caused by a liberal progressives, Hoover, Before the great depression it was one of the best times in our history and it was ran by none other than a conservitive Calvin Coolidge.

Scorpio wrote:This is funny as hell to me, Socialism is where i work, government takes my money, gives it to BOB who hasnt done **** all of his life and gets rewarded. everyone gets Health Care (which does not work because it wastes an acumulated 1.8 trillion a year, which stacks deficit and kills our econ, much like eroupe) Uh, Obama is a crappy president in my mind, he is gunning for cap and trade which makes it so he controls another aspect of buisiness along with healthcare he gains more power over you and me. Cap and Trade says you cannot put so much carbon in the air and taxes you on it AND if you go over it they HEAP more taxes on you and then the Trade part is if you dont go over it you can sell the amount you didnt use to the government (which taxes you to sell it) that is complete and utter socialism which will never work under truth and facts, jimime carter tried it and the unemployment was at 25% pipelines around the block 4 trillian in the hole with debt. NOW after that Reagan got us out and put us only into 4 billion dollar debt BUT un employment was at only 4% the best it has been since before the great depression WHICH was caused by a liberal progressives, Hoover, Before the great depression it was one of the best times in our history and it was ran by none other than a conservitive Calvin Coolidge.

You're BOB, right?

Anyway, you have no idea what you're talking about, especially about Europe.
Also, the Health Care insurance thing is actually very good.
Especially for you, because your obesity makes you go a lot to hospitals so it's nice you finally have an insurance for it.

Burn wrote:First off, I did not participate in your politics rant (Neither did Slick or TomCat, it was youself, Lexx, and Scorpio). You're just mentioning me because of the pits incident. Next off, you sure as hell didn't punch a Tea Party protester (violation of the First Amendment).

Not once did you mention your excessive blocking, hmm what a coincidence? I hope to see you banned once again.

Actually, I hope to see you in the darkest, coldest pits of Hell, Burn. You never seem to be happy with things as they are, so why don't you try running them. As a matter of fact, you're the slimiest, sickest, lowest form of humanity that I've ever had the displeasure of meeting.

As for the blocking, I'm talking to Burnout about it as I speak, and yes, I did punch a Tea Party protester here in Iowa City a while back for calling me a wetback, a racist slur to Hispanics.

But the bottom line is this: if you don't like me, that's tough. If you don't like how things are run, that's too bad. If you have trust issues, then deal with them yourself instead of getting your stupid whiny *** in here and ruining everything with your bad attitude, Burn!!!

There, I finally had the nerve to say something that you have had long coming, Burn!!!

Scorpio wrote:This is funny as hell to me, Socialism is where i work, government takes my money, gives it to BOB who hasnt done **** all of his life and gets rewarded. everyone gets Health Care (which does not work because it wastes an acumulated 1.8 trillion a year, which stacks deficit and kills our econ, much like eroupe) Uh, Obama is a crappy president in my mind, he is gunning for cap and trade which makes it so he controls another aspect of buisiness along with healthcare he gains more power over you and me. Cap and Trade says you cannot put so much carbon in the air and taxes you on it AND if you go over it they HEAP more taxes on you and then the Trade part is if you dont go over it you can sell the amount you didnt use to the government (which taxes you to sell it) that is complete and utter socialism which will never work under truth and facts, jimime carter tried it and the unemployment was at 25% pipelines around the block 4 trillian in the hole with debt. NOW after that Reagan got us out and put us only into 4 billion dollar debt BUT un employment was at only 4% the best it has been since before the great depression WHICH was caused by a liberal progressives, Hoover, Before the great depression it was one of the best times in our history and it was ran by none other than a conservitive Calvin Coolidge.

These are some of the features of socialism, which I'll expound on after enumerating:

(1) state ownership of the means of production and control over investment throughout the economy
(2) a more equal distribution of income and wealth than typically found in capitalism
(3) democratic election of government officials responsible for economic decisions
(4) government planning of the entire economy; socialism with this feature is typically referred to as 'central-planning socialism'

The first feature is the ONLY feature that counts as both a necessary and sufficiently defining characteristic. The second feature is typically agreed upon by socialists, although what principles should govern the distribution is still a debate among socialists. The third feature is largely agreed upon by socialists, hence why a lot of them refer to themselves as democratic socialists. The fourth feature is pretty controversial and isn't too popular among socialists nowadays. Central planning hasn't been viewed as an efficient way to run an economy.

(SOURCE: The Oxford Guide to Philosophy edited by Ted Honderich)

Now with these characteristics in mind, let's look at Obama. If you think Obama is ushering in a society that satisfies at least the first characteristic of socialism, you're wrong. If you think this health care bill constitutes a socialistic aspect of our economy, or that its ratification means we've become a socialistic society, you're wrong.

Period.

If you want to argue against this health care bill, that's fine. If you want to take issue with Obama's platform, that's fine. Legitimate political differences are one thing, but outright misrepresenting this bill and the President's platform is another and that's what you're doing when you scream "SOCIALIST!"

By the way, I'm on the fence on the whole healthcare reform that's just been signed, so don't think I'm affiliating myself with any damned political party.

The problem with the obama care is that our government has the right to REGULATE COMMERCE correct? meaning taxes or a market of some sort. With this they are forcing that commerce uppon you and forcing you to pay for healthcare OR pay 1000 a month if you fail to pay, which is un constitutional. Page 321 Section 5000 in the bill, look it up, and I DO know what im talking about i took econ and goverment i got a 10 on econ and 9 for government on the ACT that i took for the state of michigan. i was tought well, thats where socialism fails in truth and facts, you cant argue the facts so you deny. bring some facts to the table

I don't know what the hell happened out on the racetrack but this is just wrong for all of you. You are supposed to be racing and having fun and not pointing out political problems. You guys should know better.

Thank you to whoever locked this topic I was going to do this myself. Please stop talking about government ********.

Seriously I thought I told you all to keep race chatter to a minimum, and only for YEL or REDs. The race was chock full of political opinions and it RUINED the racing today. This is one reason why I am leaving the Phenom Series and am going to step up enforcement of this series as administrator.

If this continues in the Cup Series when I'm racing, you may lose me as well as a competitor in that series. You DON'T want me as fulltime administrator of the Cup Series or you may feel like you're in a living hell because I'll catch you for everything you do wrong.

I don't want to be dictatorish like that, but this nonsense needs to stop. We need to be RACING and not pointing out the flaws in the United States' economy and political system. There are better times to discuss that than in-race. The disputes affected the way you guys raced each other and ruined the race's fun factor.

Agreed...

How do you guys end up in such.... straaange conversations on a racetrack?..

Derek, this topic was locked for a reason, let's not bring it back?

Of course, I was just curious.